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Georgia Legislature to vote on Gun Bill Tuesday
By Younce Posted in Georgia | gun control | State Politics — Comments (11) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
The Georgia Senate has an important 2nd Amendment vote coming up on Tuesday. SB 43 is a bill to help solidify a person’s right to defend themselves. According to an NRA alert here, SB 43 will do the following:
• …employees may leave a firearm in their locked motor vehicle while on their employer’s property;
• Provides employers with protection from civil liability for the actions of criminals;
• Does not authorize an employee to have a firearm outside the vehicle; and
• Does not authorize an employee to have a firearm in a secure parking facility.
This is a common sense bill that will allow citizens to protect themselves while traveling to and from work.
Unfortunately, Wal-Mart and business organizations like the Georgia Chamber of Commerce and the Georgia Association of Realtors are fighting this bill. They are using the scare tactics that a gun will be used on the property and the business owner will be sued because they “should have known” a person was likely to commit a crime.
This is typical of the anti-gun movement that tries to make anyone that wants to have a firearm for protection as a zealot who will use a gun for crimes.
If you are from Georgia, call your State Senator and encourage them to vote for SB 43. You can find the contact information for your Senator here (scroll down).
UPDATE by Erick: Tuesday is "Cross Over Day" in the Georgia General Assembly. Legislation that does not pass one house of the legislature that day automatically dies. The General Assembly is likely, in the hell that is Cross Over Day, to pay attention to the demand of vocal voters and get stuff out of their chamber and across the hall. So get on the phone if you support this.
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Huh???
by jfpurdue01
"If you are from Georgia, call your State Senator and encourage them to vote against SB 43."
Don't you mean vote FOR SB 43?
What problem does this legislation solve?
by tankertodd
Is there a use case here or is this removing curbs to gun rights? Just curious skepticism.
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Good to know where you stand in Georgia
by dmajors
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I'd like neither.
What in the world
by seattle-ite
is the mindset here? Gangbangers who shoot up an innocent neighborhood with illegally obtained weapons shouldn't be punished, but law abiding folks who want to protect themselves can't be trusted? Never could understand that 'logic'.
...employees may leave a firearm in their locked motor vehicle while on their employer’s property...
Surely it is not illegal to do this now under Georgia law, is it?
What this bill would do (if I'm interpreting your blog correctly) would be to limit the property rights of businesses.
I support an interpretation of the 2nd Amendment that allows a robust, meaningful right for citizens to buy, possess, and use firearms, but I don't believe I should be able to force you to allow me to carry when I visit you at your house, any more than I believe the First Amendment grants me a right to force you to watch Al Gore's latest propaganda film with me when I vist.
Your house. Your rules.
We ought to let the market decide: perhaps Wal-Mart, or other firms that don't allow guns on their property, will be forced to reconsider their policies if they find it difficult to recruit workers who disagree with said policy.
What we ought not to do is ask government to settle the dispute by limiting a property owner's right to do with his property as he sees fit.
The other provisions of the bill sound reasonable to me, though, FWIW.
This bill lets people have guns in their car, period. It's reasserting the rights of the consumer and the employee. As soon as they take the gun out of the car, they pass into business space and then the business can have a say.
The business has no more right to tell the employee or consumer what they can have in their own cars, any more than the customer or employee has the right to go inside the business and start waving a gun around.
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Two competing rights
by 99Jasper
This bill lets people have guns in their car, period. It's reasserting the rights of the consumer and the employee.
Well, no, not "period" -- unless the car is parked on a public street. Once the car moves into a privately-owned parking lot, it's no longer a matter of only consumer or employee rights. It's now also a matter of the rights of the owner of the parking lot.
If this bill were about reversing a prohibition in the state of Georgia against having a gun in one's car in general, or on a public road, your statement above would be true. But again, we're talking about two competing rights here: the right to bear arms and the right do with my private property as I see fit. If you think the former right overrides the second, then fair enough. But don't pretend the second right isn't at play here, because it most certainly is.
Generally pro gun, but...
by Fr Martin Fox
as this is described, I would say property rights ought to win out on this point.
not I
by Doc Holliday
people have the right to property but they can not declare your Constitutional rights are invalid on their property. For example, they can't enslave you just because it is "their" property.
One other thing, this really is not about property rights in the real world. This is about large insurance companies telling companies what they can and can not allow on their property, unless they want to pay more.
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And I plan to be on the phone on Monday, also.
This legislation is extremely important for a number of reasons, the first of which is that in states such as the one where I currently live (Massachusetts) you are allowed to own a firearm and even allowed to carry a firearm -- but only if it isn't loaded, which renders the purpose of the gun in terms of self-defense useless. It is high time that this nonsense stopped. Get on the phone.
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