My line in the sand with John McCain

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News is breaking that John McCain is meeting with Bobby Jindal, Charlie Crist, and Mitt Romney this Memorial Day weekend.

The media is missing another name that I know of. Likewise, for those still following the Huckabee veepstakes rumor mill, a whisper in my ear tells me he has taken himself out of the running after a visit by a McCain emissary to Arkansas last week.

Let me just be blunt with the McCain folks. The name that the media is not listing is wholly unacceptable and I really can't think McCain would seriously consider him. I realize he's a friend and all, but seriously, no hell no. And I actually suspect he's just tagging along like he has throughout the campaign. But not him Senator -- go with Lieberman or Ron Paul before you go with him.

Now, to the list as presented by the media:

Bobby Jindal -- I expect he'll say no, but you can ask. Louisiana needs him and he needs more time in office. But good choice.

Mitt Romney -- absolutely, but he really doesn't get you as much as a few others could. But he'd be great.

Charlie Crist -- are you kidding me? Seriously? Let me be blunt yet again: I will bolt so fast from supporting you if you pick this well tanned squish and all his baggage. Charlie Crist is totally and completely unacceptable. That's not even negotiable. I do not think I could say anything positive at all about the GOP ticket if that guy were on it. Go with Ron Paul or Mike Huckabee, but do not go with Charlie Crist. Senator, your problem is with conservatives, not with squishy moderates.

(actually, I think Huckabee would be a good pick for you, but that's another blog post)

I realize McCain needs face time with these guys. My understanding is that this is one of several meetings like this. And I suspect this is the "thanks, but no thanks" meeting. As far as Crist is concerned, it sure as hell better be.

Honestly, and this is where you guys decide I'm crazy, but I'm convinced I'm crazy like a fox, have I got a Veep pick for you, Senator McCain. Seriously.

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Nobody named "Bush" will be picked. by St. Louis Conservative

No way in hell. I also highly doubt it will be anyone in the Senate. Joe Lieberman is out because McCain has already stated that his VP will be pro-life.

Jindal and Crist are too new to the scene. Both of them only have two years of executive experience as governors.

I still maintain it will be Pawlenty, Sanford, and MAYBE Carcieri. I think Sanford is the frontrunner, due at least in part to Sanford's strong backing of McCain in 2000, and the fact that they are both strong reformers.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

SLC

I totally disagree with you, and think the best answer is to nominate the guy or gal best qualified to be President in case something happens to McCain.

The Donks will try to make this all about Bush, fine let them. Respond with nominating Jeb Bush who will connect with the Hispanic population, was a great governor in Fla, appeals to social and fiscal conservatives.

If the Donks want Republicans to run from President Bush, show them that as Bush Sr. once said, "No going to do it, would not be proper".

We nominate the best person, no matter what. Hit the donkey right between the eyes.

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Who'd have thought we'd agree on something twice in one month?

LOL, I don't remember what the other agreement was but it was good

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Conservatives love him, Dems in FL even love him, Dems everywhere else will become rabid foaming dogs at the thought of him. Heck yeah!!

Unfortunately it is much more likely that McCain will choose someone who pushes the rest of us on the precipice right over the edge. I really could be convinced to stay home.

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What about his brown wife and children?

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My parents and nephew are visiting.

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Stop projecting your own racial problems onto us, liberal.

That's a plus. by NightTwister

Personally, I think most Latino women are hot.

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5! I am with you on that by tankertodd

Man did that Moby get it wrong!

Word. by jonlester

I like women of every heritage and I, too, come from a multiracial extended family. The result is usually beautiful children.

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what do you take us for? by tankertodd

Who cares about the color of one's skin when there are a hundred reasons to despise someone? After all, In a world of idiots one can't afford to be racist. Anyway, thanks, 'nibblybits' for coming up with 101: Race-baiter Moby.

Don't get played.

"ma deuce says no truce"

And I still like President Bush.

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Jeb? Jeb?? by WY Cowboy

Jeb? Jeb?? Seriously??

This must be some sort of Machiavellian strategy to thrust Obama into office, thereby Obama will fall flat on his face and rejuvenate the GOP for a GOP landslide in 2010?

Too cute by half - or else just a very bad piece of advice. Maybe both.

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Just another Bitter white-boy clinging to guns and God!

Erick by pwest

Dude, get a grip. Jeb Bush; like Obama isn't claiming it's a thrid Bush term, or anything!

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NOBUSH!!!!!! by Jeff Emanuel

OK, I'll bite by CrabCakes

Anyone have any hints as to who the unnamed pariah candidate of whom Erick speaks might be?

Lindsey Graham perhaps. by St. Louis Conservative

And yes, Graham would be an absolute disaster of a choice.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

Go14 and immigration? I always thought he was more conservative party line than McCain.

Graham by meb110

I think he violates the prohibition of "no closeted homosexuals."

Yes, yes, and yes by E Pluribus Unum

Those 3 reasons are exactly why he got on the poop list - not just by way of "being on the team" but by being a tireless agitator and a shill for them, and for having his nose so far up McCain's butt that you couldn't see his head. And his disparaging words aimed at conservatives opposing the "Y'All Come On In" immigration package were particularly galling. We were "bigots" and "those loud people should just 'shet up'".

And yes, he is and has always been considered more conservative (and less 'mavericky') than McCain. Just not *enough* more conservative to excuse the other things.

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next witness: John McCain, who is scheduled to speak to La Raza.

Lots of hate groups out there...

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lindsey would have to be surgically removed from McCain's....

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Graham, since at least 2000, when the McCain-Graham ticket was elected President and VP of the U-MSM-SA!

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story, so he has been mentioned by the media. I am guessing the person Erick is talking about is Brownback.

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I'd stay home with a vengeance. NO GRAHAM!!

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Just crazy, Erick by Gengisdon

If you guys put a Bush on the ticket, I will be firmly convinced that neither party actually wants to win this year. But you are more than welcome to try.

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Take a chill pill by hunter

seriously.
We all need to think like Americans, and stop thinking of party.

Of course, someone named Bush or Dole will be the V-P nominee, for the Globalists, intent on establishing a World Government via the Free Masons, the Illuminati, the Council on Foreign RElations, and the Stonecutters, will continue placing their trust in the Bush-Dole conglomerates.

Wake up, Republicans. In every election since 1976, they have placed someone named Bush or Dole on the Republican national ticket. Do you really think YOU control the nomination process?

Erick's post here on Redstate is just part of their building an apparent "groundswell" in favor of Jeb or Mrs. Dole. Meanwhile, in private, they will make it very clear to McCain (perhaps in this meeting), that he has no chance of victory otherwise, just like they did to Reagan in the summer of 1980. After all, look what they did to Goldwater in '64, or Nixon in '74.

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Well played by Mose

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But maybe all of you aren't as addicted to the Simpsons as you should be.

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Still, I find it interesting that somehow a Bush or Dole has wound up on the ticket.

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Awesome joke by MNConservative

Amazing how many fell for it. You played them like a FIDDLE!!!

Actually, given the Politically Correct nature of the current leadership in the Republican Party I'd expect a Woman or Minority to compete with the minority nature of the Democrat ticket...

Libby Dole or Kay Baily Hutchison maybe?


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you're not picking the veep! Huckabee? What about Watts? Not a fan but Mitt would help his ticket he's more conservative then Mac himself. Anyway,the veep must be very conservative to be an asset.

Watts...no. by larueladue

Watts has repeatedly stated that he is not interested and will not do it.... Too bad, really....

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Hah! Blaming GC for Graham by E Pluribus Unum

That's like blaming you or me for Sheila Jackson Lee. Or Domenech for William Jefferson.

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McCain is solid in Florida (so forget Bush and Crist).

As impressive as Jindal is, six months as governor just isn't ripe.

Romney is not getting on this ticket and becoming the heir apparent. McCain will never bestow that gift on someone he clearly so dislikes.

Graham adds nothing but rumors (besides he wants to be AG-which is another bad idea).

Lieberman just totally, totally loses you the social conservatives (he's bad on judges as well as abortion). If he joins the McCain team at all, it will be at the Pentagon.

Finally, if McCain makes his Veep selection process a perverse variation of "The Bachelor" (which is perverse enough in its original form), forcing prospective Veeps to play the supplicant, he will degrade himself and his eventual running mate.

I don't think he's that stupid.

Agreed by E Pluribus Unum

The ACTUAL list of prospects will have Sanford and Palin on it. No doubt, other names as well.

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Ms. Rice is respected, sophisticated, educated, articulate, cool-under-pressure, patriotic, politically savvy, courageous -- in short, an "adult" that this country should be very proud of...and rightly elevate on a national stage. Most importantly, this selection has nothing to do with race or gender. She is deserving and uniquely competent.

(and, be honest now: do you wanna reconsider your suggestions of Charlie, Jeb, Bobby, Lindsey, Mitt and Huck?)

She is deserving and uniquely competent. However, her capability in running for office seems limited, especially as she has never actually done it before. However, if McCain does pick her, Obama would face a nearly impossible situation as many female voters would up and walk out of the Democratic party.

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Let me count the ways

- Miserable failure at State
- Zero political experience
- Tied to Bush administration policy McCain has made a point to oppose
- Pro-abortion

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thanks Neil.... by khelek

Through all this talk of Ms. Rice being the potential VP pick, I was wondering what all the enthusiasm for her was about, given her pro-abortion stance. I would think that, in light of the problems Conservatives have with McCain, Rice on the ticket would make the McCain choice that much a harder pill to swallow for we Conservatives.

When it was suggested again, I was wondering if I misremembered things.

Brian

I mean if we are considering Condi Rice, why not give voters in 2008 a really loved VP candidate to remind them of the issues they have with our party the past few years and currently?

C'mon. Using 'miserable failure' to describe Condi is using the Left's own language against our own people, something that John McCain has been endlessly criticized for here (and rightly so; "tax cuts for the rich" my patootie).

Criticizing Condi for her job at State is much like complaining that someone sent to shovel out the Augean Stables with a teaspoon didn't leave it smelling minty fresh. She's the first Secretary of State in what seems like forever that's kept State from actively undermining a Republican President's foreign policy (unlike Colin Powell), and that's saying a lot.

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Criticizing her from the left would be to say that she lied and people died.

Criticising her from the right is to say that she is totally ineffective and represents a weakening and nearly impotent foreign policy.

Rice is one of the few VP picks that could send me packing.

stop swatting at flies in Afghanistan from day one of the administration, and why we had a plan that was executed to perfection so soon afterward.

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If it were up to me we had a different Presidential nominee, and I said so.

I don't see why that would suggest I should withhold criticisms for a VP nominee.

And I notice your defense of Rice only addresses one of my points.

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Since you insist by Finrod

I didn't tell you to withhold criticism, I criticized your use of liberal codewords in your criticism.

Regarding your points:

Zero political experience isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's not like she has zero *governmental* experience, after all.

Unlike Bush, Condi still has high favorables, and thus isn't 'tied' to the Bush Administration. What Bush policy that McCain opposes that's relevant to Condi's job are you talking about anyways?

A VP's previous positions on issues like abortion, unless radically held, rarely matter. I believe Bush Sr. was at least somewhat pro-choice before becoming Reagan's VP, and Condi isn't even that far. Also, Dick Cheney I believe was pro-gay-marriage before becoming W's VP. Both Bush Sr. and Cheney followed their respective president on those issues.

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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times ....?

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I do LOVE me some Jeb by E Pluribus Unum

He won't do it, and I hope he does not - I think the Bush name is toxic for the next 20 years, unfotunately, because I think he would have been a better president than W - and not even close. A bonafide 3-stool conservative who knows how to communicate and share his vision.

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is that per day, or per week?

To the dungheap with it.

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Ah, you kill me, man! by E Pluribus Unum

Perhaps the guy is just that dedicated to bran flakes...

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No Huck No Romney by justatron

Here's why I think neither are seriously interested in the VP slot. Both clearly want another shot at the nomination. Both are young enough to bide their time and build their network to do so. Let's say one of them takes the VP spot and McCain loses. That's it...go join John Edwards in the failed VP candidate club.

But on the flip side, what if McCain wins in November? Then, Vice President Huckabee/Romney is stuck for the next 8 years. 2012 only becomes an option if McCain chooses not to run or dies/is incapacitated in office. Then, if McCain wins a second term, sure, they would then be the Republican frontrunner. But no matter the state of the country, history would be against them. Would voters extend 16 years of Republican dominance in the WH to another 4? That's a mighty big gamble. And if McCain loses re-election, they are back in the Edwards boat.

Huck/Mitt can afford to wait this one out and come back in 2012 or 2016 and retain their "outsider" status, regardless of who is the sitting president.

Because it needs to be a governor or former gov NOT named Crist, and furthermore, it needs to be Sanford. Or that guy that Leon said.

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No Fred Thompson VP love?

I think he'll pick someone young, and Fred looks old. The last thing he wants is to play into the caricature of the GOP being the old white guy party.

Exactly .....and in addition by E Pluribus Unum

no to a ticket where a significant portion of the party faithful would like the roles reversed.

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In that case... by Brian Roastbeef

You must be in favor of McCain-Graham

Do what? by aceintx

Are you saying most Americans would want a McCain/Graham ticket reverses to a Graham McCain Tiket?

I don't think so...I don't think Graham would get to first base...I could see him the first time somone pressed him on anything..."JAST SHAD AAAP!!

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You mean? by kyle8

Lite Loafer Lindsey? Got no use for him.

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I see you started your Friday night drinking waaaaaaaaay early Brian.

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or........ by E Pluribus Unum

exactly what were you implying there?

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I'm sad he didn't get the big name on the ticket, as I think he'd turn the GOP back in the right direction. But, as others have said, McCain and Thompson together would be a disaster from an image stand point.

And I'm pretty sure that Fred has stated unequivacably he wasn't interested in being #2....

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Fred for RNC Chairman.

After the way he ran his campaign?

I love Fred and what he stands for but no thanks!


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Think broader by E Pluribus Unum

RNC Chair does not manage campaigns or anything of the sort. But he's the front man for the GOP brand, he has potentially a BIG say in recruits for candidates -- which has been in the crapper since Haley Barbour left. Just think - Fred recruiting and supplying an army real conservatives, real straight-talkers, people who will challenge liberals on the merits, take the conservative message to the people.

As opposed to this recent history we have of weak-kneed, gutless triangulating. Do you suppose for one second that if Fred headed up RNC we would have them endorsing Specter over Toomey, or Chafee over Laffey (was that his name?), and so on?

It could be pretty neat.

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My issue with the RNC right now is the fact that they've done so little in terms of outreach that I couldn't tell you who the RNC Chair even is and I read the news incessantly!

There's no excuse for it. Fred would be a good spokesman but I'd worry about his energy and apparent lack of enthusiasm. I don't mean that as a knock because I love Fred, he just doesn't seem to get all that worked up about campaigning and such!


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You say this in comparison by NightTwister

to the current amount of energy and enthusiasm coming out of the RNC.

Honestly, could it really be any less?

One more thing...think of Fred's response to Castro. That's exactly the sorta thing we need coming out of the RNC on a regular basis.

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Honestly, could it really be any less?

No...I don't think a corps would exhibit any less energy or enthusiasm than the current RNC leadership.

That was a great quote and Fred is a great spokesman...I grant you that...the issue become Fred's own declaration that he hates campaigning, With that being said, why would he want to sign onto a position that requires perpetual campaigning?

I just don't thing RNC Chair is the place for him! Something communications related would be better suited for him.


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I think it's Gillespie by E Pluribus Unum

which serves only to illustrated your point. I *think* it's a guy named Ed Gillespie, about whom I know very little. And like you and NightTwister are saying, there is NOTHING coming out of the RNC.

In a presidential election hear.

In which we are outnumbered by small margins in both Houses.

Where a vibrant, enthusiastic effort from the RNC might move us over the hump.

Instead of over the cliff.

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I'm pretty sure of it...He used to get out on the talk show and news talk circuit and tell everyone what they were up at the RNC...

Hold on...I'll look it up....

It's Mike Duncan?

I have no knowledge of who he is or what qualifies him to be chair but there it is!


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That ticket reminds me of a movie from the early 90's with Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau, what was it called, oh yeah...Grumpy Old Men :)

Is this the same Erick who frothed at the mouth at the mere mention of Romney's name during the primary.

Anyway, one thing I know is true. Romney stands out in person. He along with Jindal are the only two real geniuses in that group. When you get them all together those, it will become apparent whose the wheat and whose the chaff. Romney, from age and experience will have an edge on Jindal in Gravitas. Thi scould hurt or help those two. They are clearly the best and brightest. But that could also be intimidating to have a veep who can go around the country and could explain things like free market principles, the mortgage crisis, and trade with China in a way that McCain never could.

From an insecure standpoint, I think McCain may like the plastic Charlie Crist. But I think McCain needs a curveball - youth, women, or minority. For some reason I think Colin Powell is a real sleeper in all this even though he isn't discussed much.

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whose the wheat and whose the chaff

Eye just thought ewe wood want two no.

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

Powell would fit the bill for an affirmative action pick but he does the same thing Huckabee would do to the ticket. Where Huckabee would immediately lose you 1/3 of the Party,(FisCons) the day he's announced Powell loses you the SoCon third since he's pro choice and a self professed "Moderate/Liberal on social issues!.


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What did Crist do to merit such contempt? I thought he was generally conservative and very popular in the important swing state of Florida.

If we need him to win FLorida, we're doomed already. McCain will win Florida easily if it's close.

Elswhere he's a net negative--appears conservative to moderates, but appears moderate to conservatives.

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He holds Pennsylvania, helps in Ohio, he's Jewish which helps in Florida and he's a Clinton acolyte without actually having been in the Clinton administration. Given that, who would we want to debate Rendell (not that that should be the sole or even a chief criteria, but for the sake of discussion...).

I'll throw out a name to be picked apart I am sure....John Thune. No, South Dakota is not in play, but Thune has slayed a Senate Majority Leader, he's "telegenic" and "young", he's not prone to Quayle-like gaffes.

I'd bet on Claire McCaskill. She'd re-solidify the female vote in the Democratic camp (not as if they were going to flock to McCain in droves anyway), put Missouri in real play, and she's been on board with Obama from the start.

I doubt Clare by Illinicon

since they were alot of rumors about her drug habits in her senate race. If they want to go with a do no harm candidate Strickland makes alot of sense, he has all of Rendall's strengths, without being the polarzing personality that Rendell is.

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I've heard McCaskill and would love Obama to pick her, she's weak. Strickland has been Governor for as long as Jindal, he beat a GOP candidate whose sitting Republican Governor had an approval ratings in the sub-10% range. Quite the accomplishment!

I maintain it will be Rendell who will be able to spend most of his time campaigning in his home state which the Dems desperately need and which will be in play otherwise; with occasionally forays to the Jewish community in Florida and he can be the tough to Obama's tender in the couple of VP debates.

And how is the GOP going to attack her on that? I invite you to look at her photo on Wikipedia. Do you really see the GOP going hard-nosed at someone who reminds people of their mom?

She's very popular in Missouri, having been governor and now Senator, and she would energize the female vote. I warn you: Fear the Claire!

To Matt Blunt. She won in 2006, when any Democrat with a pulse and $100 in the bank beat Republican DC incumbents burdened with the Iraq debacle. I'm not calling her a "fringe candiate", but the idea that she is some electoral powerhouse, such as a two-term Governor and multi-term Senator is just not the case. She is a losing Gubernatorial candidate with 2 years of Senate experience.

Brain fart on my part. I still think that Obama needs a popular, likable woman from a swing state, though. Especially if Hillary decides to make it nasty on the way out (as I expect she will).

Claire McCaskill isn't that popular.... by St. Louis Conservative

...what makes you think she is?

She won a close election against a bad candidate in a Democrat tidal wave year.

She also has a big mouth and tends to mouth off a lot. She is a liar as well, and ran a vicious campaign against Jim Talent, accusing him and the GOP of "fixing gas prices to win the election" among other ridiculous claims.

Claire McCaskill is a joke and a disgrace to Missouri.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

By single-handedly conducting stem cell research out of her Senate office? I believe that crucial issue was the keypoint of her big win?

Yes. by St. Louis Conservative

She ran millions of dollars worth of ads starring Michael J. Fox attacking Jim Talent as someone who wanted to "criminalize" stem-cell research. Another lie.

I think Claire McCaskill has too much of a b*tch factor to be considered. She is a mouthy, domineering woman who reminds men of their first wives every bit as much as Hillary Clinton does.

“.....women and minorities hardest hit”

McCaskill by meb110

Was never Governor. She was State Auditor.

along with Strickland, he has rumors of skeletons. I keep wondering about Salazar, who is Hispanic and might put CO in play.

Ohio will be close, and will prove critical. If he can win that, McCain will have to cobble together a few other states.

Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin are the big, close states today. If things don't change (and they will), they will be the critical 3 in '08, much as Florida, Michigan, and PA were in 2000.

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He appointed the first open lesbian to the Ohio equivalent of Circuit Court, so that will be a clear sign the Gov. shares the kos-kids priorities and give them comfort with Obama's future court nominees.

I don't have a beef, ideological or otherwise, with him, but the only thing he does is give Obama an edge in Ohio. He would have little effect on the rest of the swing states.

In regard to the suggestion below of Richardson, yes he would shore up Hispanic support, but Texas is going to go Red and California is going to go blue no matter what. New Mexico and Colorado would turn a slightly darker shade of blue, but the net benefit is small.

McCaskill, on the other hand, not only puts Missouri in play, but would result in an increased voter turnout among women nationwide in Obama's favor. Since they make up 50% of the population, I think she would be his best net plus pick.

She won't put Missouri (Bush +7 in '04) in play unless Obama is already winning big. But she will be a net drag on the ticket--a big "DIVERSITY" (i.e., liberal) label attached to the ticket.

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Hispanic, great resume with gravitas to shore up Obama's inexperience.

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