Fred Endorses McCain
WE SHOULD TOO
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Fred Thompson, said late Friday he was endorsing McCain:
"This is no longer about past preferences or differences. It is about what is best for our country and for me that means that Republican should close ranks behind John McCain," Thompson said in a statement.
John McCain, in his new status as the presumptive Republican nominee has reached out to Conservatives. At the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C., he was introduced by former Virginia Senator George Allen and Oklahoma Senator Tom Coburn, a not so subtle blessing from respected Conservative leaders.
McCain offered to meet disaffected Conservatives halfway. He vowed to lower taxes, appoint judges "of the character and quality of Justices Roberts and Alito," and reject "big government" solutions to health care, reminded the audience of his continuing support for the war, declaring, "I intend to win the war."
Read on.
What is most important, for those of us who have quibbles over some of McCain's positions, McCain promised to listen:
"We have had a few disagreements," McCain said. "And none of us will pretend that we won't continue to have a few. But even in disagreement, especially in disagreement, I will seek the counsel of my fellow conservatives. If I am convinced my judgment is in error, I will correct it. And if I stand by my position, even after benefit of your counsel, I hope you will not lose sight of the far more numerous occasions when we are in accord."
We should follow Fred's example and respond to McCain's olive branch by also meeting the presumptive nominee halfway.
Sure, we all have at least some quibbles with McCain. We have some quibbles with everyone. But my quibbles with McCain, recede past the level of insignificance when compared to the enormous disagreements I have with either possible Democratic nominee.
We need not go through the list, issue by issue. It is more than enough to just briefly consider what the two possible Democratic presidential candidates, those darlings of the Liberal/Progressive left wing, promise they will do every time they recite their stump speeches: Retreat from Iraq, even as we are making significant progress in the longterm effort there; collect and spend billions an billions more in taxes expanding the big government nanny state so that it controls more and more of our lives; etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
To those who say they think they would rather sit out the election than meet McCain halfway, I respectfully ask that you reconsider. Is such a course of action responsible? Does leaving the field to your opponents ever help your cause to prevail? I think not.
I'm not suggesting that you change your mind and advocate or support positions with which you disagree. The discussion on those points can continue until some common understanding is reached. No, all I ask is that you respond to the olive branch offered by John McCain and just meet the presumptive Republican presidential nominee half way.
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McCain is now inevitable....
I agree with Rush Limbaugh. The best way to mitigate the deleterious effects of a McCain Presidency is to elect a solid, Republican Congress to keep him from doing serious damage. Keep the Dems from getting a veto-proof congress!
Embrace McCain and work your butts off for Republican candidates for state senate, governor and congressional races.
No matter what McCain may or may not have said about Alito, he voted for him and Roberts. With McCain in the White House we can ensure relative control of two of the three branches of the federal government.
And the best way to re-establish true federalism is to appoint SCOTUS justices that actually believe in it. For all those "suicide voters" out there that won't support McCain, you will be held responsible for the death of federalism.
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Proof that not everyone in the mainstream media is a bleeding heart.
"you will be held responsible for the death of federalism" Why don't you just add "calm down" in there. No one in the base is going to be responsible for McCain's actions in office or his not getting elected. Take the "it's all your fault" argument back to the country clubbers who gave us this fiasco.
"Hey, I call 'em like I see 'em. I'm a whale biologist."
As a Fredhead and early Rudy supporter, I have been in the depths of despair over this primary process. I'm not happy with the way I feel our party has been hijacked by a few open primaries and I'm certainly not happy with the overall outcome.
But it is what it is and it is time to move forward.
We need to enjoy and exploit the coming bloodbath within the dems and get behind our man.
If Fred and Rudy can support McCain, then so can I. He is far better than the alternative.
and I don't like it. On the one hand; how can you ever hold a party to account if you can't walk on them? On the other, judges, war and other issues require that I be a responsible citizen. You've got me this time Republican Party. This time.
What the hell is going on out here? - Vince Lombardi
But it is time to soldier on.
EPU wrote a great diary after SC about our flawed primary system. When he surfaces on here today, I am going to pull it up and read it again more carefully. He is really onto something and I think we as a party should look long and hard at how to do this better next time.
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It is time to draw the line. If we don't do it now, we never will. Either Principle is more important than Political Expediency or it isn't!! There comes a time when no compromise is acceptable.
As long as the conservatives keep supporting "liberals" and "moderates", the Party will keep putting them up. Apparently, the only language they learn is losing. Sooooo......no support for McCain, period. They accuse us of saying that it is our way or the highway, but that is not true. In reality, it is the right way (our way) or the wrong way. I, for one, am sick of being forced into doing things that will inevitably lead to disaster. AND I AM NOT GOING ALONG WITH IT ANY MORE!!!!!
When you have to choose the "lesser of two evils", you are still getting an evil.
Get your head out of the sand. We have the war in Iraq on the line, the potential appointment of multiple Supreme Court Justices (not to mention scores of Circuit and District Judges), trouble brewing in Iran, and out of control earmarking. You can make yourself into some self-righteous martyr if you want, but I'm going to stand up for the guy who will stand up for America.
Nope, your argument hasn't worked yet.
And insults don't help.
If you keep letting the Party have its way (doing bad things), it will keep taking advantage of the enablers. And it will never learn and never stop.
Oh, there will be damage and suffering and maybe death. But, that is nothing compared to what there will be if we do not get control of this runaway spoiled BRAT!!!! We have seen what has happened to the Dims, and we are headed that way.
It is time for some tough love. The answer is NO!!! and I mean NO!NO!NO! and NO!!!!! We conservatives must not support McCain in any way, shape, or form. Otherwise, we have become prostitutes. This is not being a self-righteous martyr, it is proper parenting, and LONG OVERDUE.
appoint judges "of the character and quality of Justices Roberts and Alito,"
I'd rather have justices with the same judicial philosophy as Roberts and Alito. We and McCain both will be better off if we approach getting behind him with clear eyes.
Very good catch NKBG. Just more double speak. And we know he will listen. He never has had a problem listening. It's the doing thingy he seems to have a problem with.
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"Big Pharma"
"Some people on Wall St. need to be in prison"
Met us halfway to...where, exactly? McCain showed his fangs with these unscripted outbursts, and they were during the Primary. Stepping out of character for a speech at CPAC hardly qualifies as reconciliation.
He's vowed to...
lower taxes -- voted against the Bush tax cuts and opposed making them permanent.
appoint judges -- as a member of the Gang of 14 he helped preserve the logjam of Bush judicial appointees. See "Jim Haynes". Also, Robert Novak confirmed that McCain's comments about Alito being too conservative were accurate.
big government healthcare solutions -- supports drug re-importation and Medicare drug price-setting.
Against his continuing support for the War I'd have to balance his continuing support of the war against the First Amendment and against Immigration Security.
Sorry, not sold on the man.
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"I find your lack of faith disturbing." -- Darth Vader
You have to look at his entire statement when you look at his approach to the Bush tax cuts. He said that we need to cut spending and taxes together. I can't be mad at the guy for that. Spending is out of control, and he has actually been pushing an aggressive position against wasteful spending for years.
Alito very well may not have been confirmed had it not been for the "Gang of 14." That could also be said about dozens of Cirtcuit and District Court nominees. Everyong rightfully adores Reagan, but he appointed Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy (two major flops). Reagan himself couldn't make some of you people happy. There was no way that all of Bush's nominees would be confirmed. McCain helped guide throw the largest number possible. Have a little foresight.
You forget, Republicans controlled the Congress. If it weren't for the gang of 14 the Dems would have had to back down or the "Nuclear option" would have been implemented. Either way ALL of bush's nominees would have been approved because they would have been given an up or down vote. As it was we ended up compromising and putting up softer nominees so as not to stir up the argument again.
To compromise with evil is to corrupt good!
Go Mike Go!!!
...when the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010 (on President Obama's watch) and our taxes increase by default. Oh, yes I can.
Reagan isn't running for President -- on judges McCain acted, as always, out of his Senatorial sense of entitlement and hunger for the cameras.
--furious
"I find your lack of faith disturbing." -- Darth Vader
I'll watch. And if McCain wins then he can start to prove himself. I'm not going to support him and then like GWB, bail on us once he is secure in his position. You have to wonder where GWB would be now if "Comprehensive Immigration/ McCain Kennedy" was an issue in January of 2004. If he'd have pulled this switch-a-roo then, John Kerry would be President.
Im sick and tired of the nuance and lies and warped positions.
If McCain makes me a believer I'll be the first one to admit. But I wont vote for him because of "Party". Neither party is acting very American lately. Its more like a bad soap opera. When we make celebrity out of politicians then DC becomes the East Coast Hollywood. Ever watch a Senator/Congressman on CSPAN. The camera's brought DC to our living rooms and with it came the madness. Seriously, look at the plastic surgery etc.. in DC now? Why?
I am simply amazed at ALL of the principles that were on display when there were still 5 candidates running yet as they dwindled so did the principles. Its sad and looks and sounds like "DC" is a horrible airborne disease that can even penetrate the blogosphere. Those "bigtime, primetime" Politicians invite you guys to press conferences and conference calls now and look at some of you. I cant wait for RedState Radio's first McCain interview. The minute that happens or if there is a thought of that happening, the tune will change on McLiberal. Sad.
I will go out of my home State of MD and help others. I think that REAL Conservatives need to bail on McPlatitude and work on winning in the House and Senate. Let McCain win with his new liberal/moderate pals. Lets play good defense and work on the real power players on the Hill. Hillary, McCain and or Obama will not be able to accomplish a thing without the votes.
McCain will fight the War, BUT SO WILL HILLARY AND BARRACK! There is no way that they are going to pull out of anywhere and saddle their party with defeat. And those who try that scare tactic are being disingenuous. They have not had the votes to do anything close to a pull out. We Conservative need to pick our battle on the Hill, bail on the White House run; let the Maverick win his own.
If "REAL Conservatives" won't back the party, then the party isn't going to back "REAL Conservatives" in the future.
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"If we want to take this party back, and I think we can someday, let’s get to work." – Barry Goldwater
I have watched 8 years of bi**h-slapping of Conservatives by those who claim Conservatism in the spirit of Reagan and others.
The future is NOW and you are asking us to continue to give and give and give. Patience is our enemy at this point. McCain will bring more and more liberals and moderates to the party and we will disappear.
"If we want to take this party back, and I think we can someday, let’s get to work." – Barry Goldwater
I dont think that he meant "bend over and take it until they let you stand up"?
And that was VP Nixon. As you may recall, VP Nixon went on to tossing Taiwan overboard, trying wage and price controls, and sparking years of out of control inflation. His own personal corruption even led to a defeat of everything we fought for in Vietnam.
McCain is NOT worse than Nixon, sorry.
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Am I reading this wrong?
Not being sarcastic, but if Goldwater was talking about sucking it up and supporting the nominee Nixon; that was bad advice huh?
Sounds like the advice should be approached with caution this time.
He got nominated four years later. If he doesn't back the nominee, that doesn't happen. And if he doesn't get nominated, Reagan doesn't get to make his big speech, and...
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"If we want to take this party back, and I think we can someday, let’s get to work." – Barry Goldwater
The Republican Party can't win without us so you might want to revise and extend your remarks.
"then the party isn't going to back "REAL Conservatives" in the future."
What have you done for us lately? and what has McNasty ever done for us?
To compromise with evil is to corrupt good!
Go Mike Go!!!
Maybe the party can't win without conservatives but conservatives have an equally poor chance of winning with the rest of the party. The real struggle is for conservatives to articulate and pursuade the more "moderate" wing of the party that conservative ideas are the right way to go. We have been losing this battle since Reagan and its what we have to focus on.
Look at History, The whigs ignored their base and gave lip service to their concerns. Maybe it's time for the Republicrat Party to go the way of the whigs.
I'm a Conservative first and a Republican because it says it wants to represent me. When it stops representing me I will no longer be a Republicrat.
To compromise with evil is to corrupt good!
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ace I think by this stage of the game your opinion of the Republican party has been made pretty clear. I think it's a fabulous idea that you and all of Pastor Huckabee's follower's form a new party. It's a really good idea indeed and you should really do it.
The rest of us just aren't worthy of you and the über-social conservatives time to show us the error of our ways.
Do you have a name for that party you're going to form. I won't give you any of the names I have thought of, they are just not worthy.
To compromise with a zealot from ether the Right or the Left is to corrupt the spirit of America.
Go away Mike Go away!!
impossible to live with now that you have your umlaut!
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777
I'm not just speaking as a Huckabee Supporter I'm speaking as an all around Conservative. I believe in every issue that Republicans claim to represent but I'm sick of the "Check is in the mail" promises that we've been given for not just years but Decades. I'm not mad just about social issues I'm mad about the whole package. We voted Republicans out of office in 2006 because they became Democrats after 12 years in power and what did they do...they stuck a bunch of less than admirable candidates in front of us and nominated the most hateful and liberal RINO in the Senate and now we're just supposed to to kneel before him, kiss his ring and lick his posterior after he presents it to us.
The fact that you can't see the problem and just want to kick those of us who refuse to drink the establishment Koolaide says everything about you and your wing of the party
Where does it stop Steve LA
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What a load.
Republicans lost Congress for several reasons in 2006.
An unpopular war that was not going all that well with a Congress that was a rubber stamp for policies of the President who should have had better advice. "Stay the course" is not a slogan to run on.
A Congress on the R side beset of quite a few ethical issues.
A Congress on the R side that was not fiscally conservative at all, spending like drunken sailors comes to mind.
A Congress that was more concerned about legislating morality than actually doing their job.
A lack of real ideas coming from the Republican side.
When does it end?
When the Republican party restores itself as a big tent and not just the providence of the small but vocal minority that demands that as a party we back absolute positions on social issues demanded by uber social conservatives like yourself.
To compromise with zealots of ether the Right or the Left is to threaten the very existence of Democracy.
Go away Mike...Go away Mike and soon!
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OK we agree about the Congress and 2006 except the part about legislating Morality, (isn't that the purpose of most laws?). I don't see anything you said that I didn't say in my post. I just abbreviated it.
As for ideologues and Zealots, I don't get any of you in the "Big Tent", (You words not mine) crowd. Is there anything that you will stand up for or will you compromise everything to win. If winning is all you care about you can go to the Democrats for that. I've read your posts enough to know that you have issues that you care about. I agree with you on most of them but I don't hate you because we don't agree on everything.
You criticize me on the one hand for saying I can't vote for McCain because of his history and in the same breath sy you won't vote for Huckabee under any circumstances if he's our nominee. If my memory serves, I've heard you say you wouldn't vote for McCain if he puts Huckabee on the ticket.
So I ask you. Who's the ideologue here? I'll tell you up front that I'm an ideologue and I'm proud of it. The difference between us my friend is that you won't admit your own dogmatism.
To compromise with evil is to corrupt good!
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Haven't I heard you say you'd not vote in the General if Huckabee were the nominee?
Sounds like a double standard to me!
To compromise with evil is to corrupt good!
Go Mike Go!!!
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Yeah, That's gonna happen!
To compromise with evil is to corrupt good!
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"McCain will fight the War, BUT SO WILL HILLARY AND BARRACK!"
At the same level? Have you ever heard either of them (or any Dem) state a desire to win rather than get out? Remember, to "succeed" in their terms they only have to not win.
" There is no way that they are going to pull out of anywhere and saddle their party with defeat."
A) Their party WANTS defeat
B) That did not stop them from pulling out of Vietnam
C) A defeat in Iraq means the defeat of George Bush and the US miitary. And if you don't think that's what the Dems want, you have not been paying attention over the ast seven years.
"And those who try that scare tactic are being disingenuous. "
Aaaand the ad hominem attack.
"They have not had the votes to do anything close to a pull out."
Um they won't need votes. Does the phrase Commander in Chief mean anything to you? The only power the Senate has is treaties in foreign poicy. The only power the House has is financial appropriations. You may need the power of Congress declaring war to get in, but you don't need it to get out. And you can be sure that if a Dem wins, they will have at east the support they have now, probably a lot more.
Red Hot! This time I think there are far more or us than them. Many have had enough of this nonsense every time we come to an election. "We must support the candidate no matter who he is or what he has said or done in the past!" I bought that line with Bush twice. I will never buy it again.
"We must support the candidate no matter who he is or what he has said or done in the past!"
I drank that Koolaid in 1996 for Boob Dole....I WILL NOT DRINK IT AGAIN.
"no matter who he is or what he has said or done in the past"
So if the Party nominated Stalin you would follow this? Give me a break. If you're that unprincipled and have so few convictions....Why are you in politics in the first place?!
To compromise with evil is to corrupt good!
Go Mike Go!!!
Please stop dragging down the level of discourse at the site. Your namecalling of our candidates is getting out of hand. As is your implicit comparison between McCain and a genocidal dictator.
Please tone it down.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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I'm pointing out the absurdity of you comment that if the party nominates someone we have to follow them no matter what they have said or done in the past!
As for my Namecalling I've listened to the disparaging remarks about Huckabee since I've been here and so...you have no argument since you have been one of the main offenders!
To compromise with evil is to corrupt good!
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Keep acting like a third grader and you just make Huckabee look all the worse. Who wants to vote for the guy whose supporters online call Bob Dole names like that? No conservative, that's who.
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Dole was such a great candidate and put us in such a good light in 1996 that he deserves our respect dispite his being the worse candidate since Dewey!
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You cannot teach an old dog new tricks and McCain is an old dog in politics.
This dog, has bitten the hand that feeds his too many times for us to suddenly TRUST that he will support us. He WILL bite is again and again and it is time to accept that.
He has ALL the work to do. We have not changed our values but McCain must change his if he expects ANY support and then he should expect little after years of snarling and trying to bite us, sometimes succeding.
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"There is no way that they are going to pull out of anywhere and saddle their party with defeat"
Call it what you want, but a "phased redeployment" is a pull out. It is what both dem candidates
Hillary:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/iraq/
Hillary Clinton has announced her plan to end the war in Iraq and urged President Bush to act immediately.
"Our message to the president is clear. It is time to begin ending this war -- not next year, not next month -- but today.
Barrack:
http://obama.senate.gov/speech/061120-a_way_forward_i/
"When I first advocated steps along these lines over a year ago, I had hoped that this phased redeployment could begin by the end of 2006. Such a timetable may now need to begin in 2007, but begin it must. For only through this phased redeployment can we send a clear message to the Iraqi factions that the U.S. is not going to hold together this country indefinitely – that it will be up to them to form a viable government that can effectively run and secure Iraq."
They will do whatever is popular opinion, and whatever their base demands they do; and one of those things is getting out of Iraq, however they choose to do it.
At least his state went for Huckabee.
I support Governor Mike Huckabee for President.
Most endorsements say more about the endorser than about the endorsee...and what it says is not good, especially at this stage of the game. You suckers who are buying what McCain is selling, ask yourself; how liberal must be the nominee before you finally take your stand and say no? How many times will you allow someone to betray you before you learn to not trust him?
McCain is by far the least liberal of the the three Senators that might be the nominees.
You're talking nonsense. Fred and McCain had nearly identical voting records in the Senate, and McCain is at least arguably most conservative then any Republican Presidential nominee other then Reagan.
"I ain't never votin' fo another Democrat so long as I can draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas
Afterwards, not so much. Most of McCain's apostasies came after 2000 and he and Fred differed on most of McCain's wanderings off the reservation with the exception of BCFR (which Fred later said was a mistake while John has said it's his signature legislation) I don't think Fred would've gotten in if he didn't think there were sizable differences in their records.
Fred's endorsement has come late after it really makes a difference so I think that speaks loudly also.
I realize this is all over but the shouting (and wish Huck would just go away) but I hear this assertion on a regular basis so the part of me that desires/insists? that dialogue be rooted in fact just couldn't let it pass. :-)
"All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
Fox News is calling Kansas for Huckabee. I think he's got a shot at North Carolina, Mississippi, Virginia, Texas etc. If Romney holds on to his delegates we might be able to knock the McCain train of the rails yet and go to a brokered convention.
I may be wrong but it's a hope if Huck can pull enough Delegates.
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I doubt it. Huckabee hates Romney.
Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.
Romney doesn't have to give his delegates to Huckabee, all he has to do is take his delegates to the convention. If Huckabee can pull enough delegates to deny McCain 1191 we can go to a brokered convention and dump McCain for a consensus candidate. Romney would set himself up as a hero by stopping the RINO Express and might come out as the Nominee!
To compromise with evil is to corrupt good!
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Chuck Hagle had a more conservative ACU rating year before last and McCain was negotiating to leave the Party. He's where he is because he had more Democrats vote for him than Republicans.
How far is too far for you people?
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The democrats will always sell the military down the river. Say what you want about McCain but he will stand behind our soliders. So when you don't vote and Clinton or Obama are elected, you will have some blame in what happens to the military.
This is at least the second board I have seen this on.
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I can’t help but wonder if Fred wasn’t running interference for McCain all along. It’s a shame too because I liked him and was willing to rally to his banner as a consensus candidate. He started out at the top of the polls and could have united us all but he just tickled around the edges and never really tried to win. He stayed in just long enough to kneecap Huckabee and Romney, endorse McCain and disappear as an also ran. Now he wants us to rally around his good friend John McCain “for the good of the Party”.
Here’s what I have to say to that:
A vote for McCain is an endorsement of his policies. In short, by voting for McCain we are giving up the argument and voting for:
1) His opposition to tax cuts as a sop to the rich.
2) His direct assault on the first Amendment with his incumbent protection act, McCain Feingold. No one talks about the Damage he did to the party with that single piece of legislation. By banning soft money he took away the one advantage Republicans had against the Democrats. That’s before you consider his restricting us from mentioning his name 60 days before an election in an effort to warn the public. The Republican Congress has a lot to answer for and they were voted out because of their profligate spending and rejection of conservative orthodoxy but I would argue that there is no single person in either house of Congress who is more responsible for Republicans loosing their majority status than John McCain.
3) His complete surrender on the Global Warming hoax. He will surrender the entire field of trade to India, China and Russia by imposing restrictions and endless regulations on business that our competitors and trade partners will not have to meet. With that…why wouldn’t manufacturers want to leave the country since they can decrease their cost of labor, escape OSHA and other regulatory agencies, avoid the IRS and most of all, escape the environmental restrictions imposed by the Republican “Maverick”. Guess who’ll get the blame for that! Hint...it won’t be his Democrat friends.
4) His opposition to drilling in Anwar and off shore drilling.
5) His open borders policies. I know…He says he wants to secure the borders first. He doesn’t say what he wants to do second. Let me tell you what he’ll do. He’ll give blanket amnesty to the 20 million illegal aliens already in this country and all the benefits that go with it putting further stress on our failing SS System, Medicare our health care system etc etc.
6) His demand that we close Guantanamo.
7) His molly coddling of Terrorists by ensuring that they are made as comfortable as possible. I presume in our prison system on the continent since we will close Guantanamo. We won’t be allowed to stress these murderers in any way even if they know where a nuclear bomb will be set off because as he says…”My friends, we’re bigger than that.”
8) His plan for a public defender system for Terrorist since he wants to give illegal combatants defined as such under the Geneva conventions the same rights to our liberal judicial system as US Citizens and his illegal alien constituency.
9) His demand that we use federal dollars to pay for embryonic stem cells or embryo farms as I prefer to call them.
10) His opposition to a human life amendment.
11) His assertion that Alito is too conservative for the Supreme Court because “He wears his conservatism on his sleeve.
12) His opposition to the Federal Marriage Amendment.
13) His defense of the Democrat’s right to filibuster judicial nominees.
Once we elect him, if we do, he will no longer have to act like he’s really a conservative and a “foot soldier in the Reagan revolution” and can return to form by attacking his party, sucking up to and appeasing the Democrats in Congress and in the media. He will compromise with them by passing “Comprehensive” Health care Reform and any other crazy legislation the Democrats slip across his desk.
I can’t vote for this man. God help me I want to be loyal to my party and take the plunge for him but in my heart of hearts I know what’s coming. We will cede these arguments and many more because he will put us in the position of having to defend him. Once we elect him, if we do, he will no longer have to act like he’s really a conservative and a “foot soldier in the Reagan revolution” and can return to form by attacking his party, sucking up to and appeasing the Democrat Congress and the media.
It’s too late to change my Party affiliation but Texas allows us to change it on polling day. I will be changing my affiliation to Independent this when we vote next month and will see what the future holds. I drank the Republican Party Koolaid in 1996 for Bob Dole and refuse to be party to the coming tragedy that will be the McCain Campaign for President.
To compromise with evil is to corrupt good!
Go Mike Go!!!
with McCain. However you statement "A vote for McCain is an endorsement of his policies" is incorrect. Secondly why don't you take a page from your candidate's book and at least keep the rhetoric on McCain civil rather than shrill. And finally to cast voting for McCain as compromising with "evil" is a bit of a stretch. There is "evil" in the world if you mean that in a spiritual or theological sense but none of the things you mention fall into that category. If you mean it in the secular humanist sense then that becomes a matter of opinion and debate.
How is my statement incorrect? How can you vote for the man without showing, (Whether intentional or not) support for his policies because the liberals in our party will be taught that since McCain did all this to us and we went to bat for him anyway that they can just continue sticking it to us? We'll be telling them that we're blind sheep and will do what we're told so why should they pay any attention to us!
By voting for the man in spite of his record that winning is more important to us than our convictions and are worthy of nothing but contempt.
Once again by saying we'll vote for the man dispite his obvious contempt for us that he was right and we were wrong. All the while, to get him elected we'll have to go out and defend everything he's done putting us all on record that it's OK or that we agree in the end.
I vote for McCain is an endorsement of everything he's done up till now. I can't be put in a position of supporting him when I disagree with him on almost everything no matter who he's running against!
To compromise with evil is to corrupt good!
Go Mike Go!!!
a coerced confession than a heart felt endorsement. It sounds like he feels about as good about it as the rest of us do. :)
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n/t
During the Vietnam war, POW Jeremiah Denton was put on camera by the NVA to read some propaganda script. Under the lights, he blinked out TORTURE in morse code, sending that key message home to America.
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Get that one Neil ?
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It's too bad the NVA probably heard about that one by that time :-)
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It's been known to elude even the best of posters sometimes.
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McCain's the best we could have done under the current circumstances. Whatever the issues with which I disagree with him on, he is about the only Republican that can win in 2008 and fight for core conservative values.
I shudder when I consider what could happen to this country under four years of Hillbama. If you gotta hold your nose, then hold your nose, but please consider what this country will suffer under Hillbama. And, remember this, McCain is 72 and is hardly of age to lead a permanent change in the alignment of the Republican Party (I mostly say this for those who say he is too moderate b/c to me he is conservative enough) and that if he was smart he'd do what Bush didn't do and choose a VP that is young, solidly conservative, and able to take on the mantle of leadership of the Republican Party. So, if McCain is reading this, please choose Senator Thune.