Super Tuesday: Evening Open Thread
Polls start closing at 7 PM Eastern in GA
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[UPDATE 8:18, Moe Lane]: CNN's covering all of today's races here. They've already called Illinois for Obama, with 0% in... which sounds about right, really.
Exit Polls are being released. Note first that these are not complete because not everyone has voted. Second, they don't release numbers ahead of time unless they are leaked. And third, there isn't much surprising in this batch. But the link has what they released to the press.
[UPDATE 6:27] Exit Polls with numbers from the Corner. Again, this are not final because voters are still voting.
[UPDATE 6:51 (Dan McLaughlin)] Also via Geraghty, MyDD has the D-side exits. Obama walking off with the South by huge margins, and leading as far north as MO, MA, DE & NJ. Hillary winning favorite-daughter status in her adopted home of AR but getting squashed in her actual home state of IL, and winning OK handily.
[UPDATE 7:00] GA polls are closed, results will be here. CNN calls for Obama immediately.
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What, Obama/Clinton are doing something other than talking about $CHANGE$?
Sucking pond water - sounds like they are finally doing something useful for the country.
Erik
Huh, and here I was thinking only anti-capitalist lefties derided money by using the "$" sign derisively like that...
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Fresh from Iraq;
1- Who would you vote for in the Republican Primary?
NUMBER 1 response- Who cares?
NUMBER 2 response- Whichever Republican wins.
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Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
If these are correct, there are some surprises. I didn't expect Romney to take Missori, but thought he would take California.
Still, its early, so a lot can change.
Till the whole country has a chance to vote
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On Fox I just saw the graphic that there are 6 million Americans living abroad who are eligible to vote.
WE HAVE 12 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS IN THIS COUNTRY -- AND THERE ARE ONLY 6 MILLION AMERICANS LIVING ABROAD?
What is wrong with this picture?
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Considering where the good doctor's head was, when practicing medicine, is it any wonder that the man has issues?
We like staying where we are. And we're a shining city on the hill...
How is this supposed to be surprising. Dang straight more people want to be Americans than Americans want to be something else.
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Americans working and volunteering abroad is how we keep on top of the global economy. We want our spoons in everyone else's soup.
I am still predicting a close delegate count when this is done.
My previous prediction was
McCain 577
Romney 429
Huckabee 270
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/lobo/2008/feb/04/likely_result_after_super...
And I still think it is valid. I even acurately predicted that Huckabee would take West Virgina. Although, I think there is a chance that Romney and Huckabee will do a little better and McCain a little worse.
That exit poll shows McCain up in CA. But they can't reflect the absentee and mail-in ballots right? Anyway, it all looks pretty close, I was surprised at AZ!
Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
It is possible that Huck will have more delegates than Romney after tonight. That could change, but he's winning Southern states. If Romney wins WTA MO then nevermind, but Huck could be #2 after the dust settles.
Also note, that even if AZ is 44-39, it's WTA. While MA gives Romney a big lead, it's proportional. That's a lucky break for the McCain camp.
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Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone. --Mitt Romney
According to Fox News exit polls which said that western states are not as represented (Romney country) McCain led among republicans by 40 to 36!!! Only. That's taking into account huge New England states. And McCain was seriously trailing among conservatives.
This is not going to be a blow out. Conservatives came to Romney and GOP is split.
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
Don't forget Delaware, its also WTA, but only 18 delegates. East coast numbers are more important than east coast.
But it would be better the McCain (not much mind you).
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He's the only CONSISTENT pro-life, anti-illegal immigration, pro-small government, anti-tax guy on the ballot.
I'll support McCain in November.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
Romney is running very close to McCain nationwide. He is doing well even in AZ, he is doing decently in NY and NJ. He is winning DE and possibly MO. He will win a bunch caucus states. Huckabee will steal southern states from McCain.
The game is still on. I am just hoping to knock the air of inevitability out of McCain hard.
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
Even if Romney makes a race of it in California, it likely won't make a difference and McCain will still be way ahead after today.
The Democrat race is far more muddled than the GOP race.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
You may be right, but after today the states get much more Red. If Romney hangs tough, he can rebound.
Also, remember in the West, its only 3:30, and a lot of Romney's supporters work, so they will vote later.
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I hope he stays in after there is no hope left.
Just to watch you rant.
You're the reason that Redstate should have the same block user button that my email does.
But I second Cowboy. It would be kind of humorous to watch you blow your top because Romney keeps going.
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Two things I believe. #1, no one is going to be eliminated today. #2, I am not going to get much sleep tonight.
Saga cheese, some decent bread, and prepare for the apocalypse.
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Myself? I've got an excellent bottle of pinot grigio for victory, and some Southern Comfort should it not go so well.
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with a tawny port or madeira. Then again, it is all good :)
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No way... I definitely need an excellent dry red with Saga on French bread. Sweet wines disguise the wonderful flavor of the mild soft blue cheese. Now maybe with a harsher blue cheese, that may work...heh.
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meaning... My fingers are way too fast for my brain at this age...heh.
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I only drink Cab with real farmhouse Cheddar. I do agree Saga is mild, I have even opened a whole round and found it completely white :(. I suggest getting both, and comparing them, and with a bottle of champagne too. In the end, at least you get three bottles of wine :)
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someone who I would never consider nor want running the white house. I'm sickened that it has come to this. I belong to a party more concerned about winning than nominating the leader of the free world.
To make matters worse, I get a nasty look from the lady validating my signature when I declare I will be voting Republican. (NJ is full of commies/dems).
To then make matters even more worse, (yes, it gets worser), I go into the booth and can't figure out what the heck is going on! Everywhere I look, these spanish words are staring back at me and I have no idea what is going on!! I have to exit and ask the attendant if I'm in the wrong booth. He pointed out that I had to examine the machine more closely, the English is UNDER the spanish.
So. Needless to say I am not too happy right now, learning that English is a second language now in America. Knowing that people can come to this country and not have to bother to learn the language that our laws are written in. Angry that I can't understand who's on the ballot anymore. Angry that this party is no longer the party of Lincoln, Roosevelt and Reagan.
As a republican and christian I am torn. I have always believed IN people and am FOR things. This country was founded on principles to believe in, not against. I hate being AGAINST people and things, it seems so un-american and seems to be pointing at the state of the union this Super Tuesday evening.
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Fortunately, I'm from a nice English-speaking district with a good Republican population. Yup, that one. So it was quite pleasant.
I voted for Thompson btw, with his name right there I couldn't do any less. Somehow I don't think he'll win though. :(
News pundits, especially Fox News, who has been calling this for McCain before the voting has even started.
Waaah!!
McAmnesty!!
Juan McCain!!!
John McVain!!!
Sorry, just felt like taking a poke at those afflicted with McCain Derangement Syndrome.
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My personal favorite is Senor McShamnesty. I just think that one is funny. No offense intended.
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Didn't see Neil's post before I posted. Guess I shouldn't even joke about this and will avoid in the future.
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I can't really tell to be honest.
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and we will have some real results.
7 PM -- Georgia
8 PM -- Bunch of key states -- missouri, Delaware, Illinois, Mass, Alabama, Oklahoma, Tenn (not counting the ones that are uncontested). If Romney wins 2 or more of these, then he's not in bad shape.
Bunch of other states North dakota,Minnesota,Delaware, Montana, Alaska, Colorado have caucuses. Who knows?
11 PM California.
Shouldnt we be hearing some stuff from Georgia by now???
No surprise there, really, but it's been officially called.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
I could have sworn that you were a Rombot. What happened? (This should go with you "Voted Ron Paul" comment, but just is case your kidding I put it down here, heh ;))
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use the word "Dude"... Irksome and so California...
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This looks like a three-way 32-32-32 race from the male/female exit polls question.
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McCain is 2 points behind, and Romney is slightly ahead of Huck
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
I am wrong, Huck is slightly up :)
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
And it also means that no one will call that race until there are a lot of actual votes in.
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I am going to predict that Romney will squeak out a victory over Huckabee, with McCain in 3rd.
By 1 point :)
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#GAREP
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
Just voted here in Jersey. 6 votes total that I can guarantee went to Romney. 2 votes out in CA also toward Romney.
There were no other issues on the ballot here except for the primary, i'm hoping that McCain supporters out here will think he's got such a far lead in the polls there's no need to vote, and Romney will surge.
Man, Georgia is slow at this n/t
Blacks were 52% of the vote, Whites were 44%. Obama won blacks, 86-13. Clinton won Whites by only 54-43.
If that's a more general breakdown, Obama can win a lot of states like MO, CA, NY, NJ, etc.
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I don't even care about the Republican primary anymore. I'm a nervous wreck about the Democrat race though.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
Too much conjecture. Ten months is a long time. I look at Obama like a national Deval Patrick and Patrick is quickly turning into a big time joke. The luster will whither. Substance and scurity can prevail. Obama is a piece of fluff, which time will expose.
this is looking like Obama blowout...
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
Hey - I am going to be doing interviews tomorrow morning up here in Canada...I'd love some more one liners (The "Hillary and Obama both suck pond water" is great. Keep them coming.
We (Albertans) are now in an official election! It's campaign fever!
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thinks Edmonton is a motel chain which owns a hockey team.
Everyone thinks that in Canada too!!
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So do we start considering that they actually might nominate Obama?
Yuck.
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went from Obama with a 40% chance of winning the nomination yesterday to 60% right now.
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it is a very red state. Obama beats Huck 55/45
McCain beats Obama 55/45
That means McCain may have to defend UTAH for heck sakes!
I dont remember where I linked to the poll.
I guess that's about what voted in WV :)
McCain 202
Huck 149
Romney 140
I think they should just call it now... that's insurmountable.
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If those exit polls are right on the Dem side, Obama will walk away from Super Tuesday with more delegates and all the momentum. I'm afraid we may be up against the toughest Dem, electorally speaking.
Those are just for GA. Maybe they are the same everywhere, but for the record, those are just GA voters.
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Sorry for not being clear. I was referring to the exit polls at MyDD linked in the update above. They look real good for Obama.
in MT caucuses...
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
Ender, where are you getting MT results?
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
The Donkeys must run the polling places in Georgia. This is so slow, it borders incompetence.
I always recall a 30-60 minute delay after polls closed. I think the electronic counts have sped that up for some places. Maybe GA is still on paper.
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Then again, I'm in Cobb, which is one of the richest counties in Georgia. (Newt's old district covered about half of Cobb.)
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georgia (1%)
McCain 38%
Huck 28%
Romney 27%
That Montana "invitation caucus":
Romney 16%
McCain 13%
Paul 10%
Huck 5%
Again, these are percentages, not delegates. Make sense to me however.
*Drinks some pinot grigio* Time to adjust my tallies
Georgia isn't even at one percent yet. At this rate, we'll know the results of California first.
AP and some local organizations can get results directly from the polling sight. Most votes will be tallied by closing polls down-driving the counters/machines to the election commission. Then votes are counted. Uusually only votes from absentees or votes from polling stations at an election commission are counted in less then 1/2 hour.
I have (as a certified observsor) got results and called them in to REP HQ in past elections. This is not just a big internet poll. People actually have to close down machines, pack up election-poll books, turn off the lights and left the building 1st.
They've updated the exit poll numbers with more people... Huck is way up with women. McCain still 3rd.
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
The new batch makes it 33-31-30 according to the exit polls. That means Huck has a 40% chance, Romney 33% and McCain 27%... roughly.
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states very soon :) some of the slowest ever.
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
Yay...
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Got a friend who is supporting Obama who is delerious with happy hyperness right now!
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He/She will start crying. The "change" he keeps talking about is good ole plain, drab, soul crushing socialism.
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This primary has been awful so far.
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But I was drinking something. Don't make me spit all over the keyboard!
Come up short...ha!
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I got it because Madison is one of my favorites so I know the little things. Little things! Yeah...it didn't work. Hard to follow your line though.
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Final fight scene between Johnny and Daniel.
That should hold you over until the rest of the 8PM eastern polls close.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
Good call, have it on right now.
"Sweep the leg..."
Looking at the CNN Georgia exit poll, it shows quite a bit of difference in vote based on region of Georgia, with each candidate having areas of strength. It's probably safe to say that each candidate will be the winner in some of Georgia's 13 congressional districts (delegates per win). Still, the big prize is the statewide winner who walks away with 30 delegates plus whatever district delegates won.
While some conservatives are whining about stopping McCain and his possible murder of the party, the real villain is killing us with a smile.
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“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
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Clinton has been up in Oklahoma by at least 20 points since December.
Big mistake for McCain to go there and campaign. He made it a race rather than an afterthought.
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Since Massachusetts awards delegates strictly proportional, it doesn't really hurt him not to win.
looks like he benefits from staying in.
huckabee may actually be hurting McCain just as much as Romney.
They didn't want to help Huck, but their dissent on McCain helped Huckabee make a case.
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I don't see online anywhere it says Huckabee won Alabama?
Who called it?
I hope Romney gives him a run for his money, if for no other reason than to force McCain to reach out to conservatives and stake out more solidly conservative positions.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
Huck may be the best VP to shore up that base... even though Huck does not have the support of radio-talk show host conservatives.
A populist VP is the best way to shore up the conservative base.
FredHead for Mitt Romney!
Most have figured out that the VP means nothing and vote for the presidential nominee. I could care less who he picks as VP, he can NOT get my vote. Thanks to the internet, knowledge has spread regarding this old and otherwise viable solution in politics - won't work today.
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Just thought I would start with something we all agree on.
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