"The Hairy Ainu of Appalachia."
Hey, don't look at *me*. I didn't come up with the term.
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Do you know what's more fun than giving good advice to Democrats, when you know that they'll ignore it? Watching a Democrat do it to fellow-Democrats. It's doubly fun when it's Salon doing it. Via RCP:
Why don't those hillbillies like Obama?
Obama's "Appalachian problem" is a symptom of his party's larger "rural problem." But a new poll offers hope for the fall -- provided the Democrats show rural voters some respect.
May 20, 2008 | WHITESBURG, Ky. -- In analyzing the returns from last week's West Virginia Democratic primary, a phalanx of reporters and commentators have explained Hillary Clinton's landslide victory by pointing out that West Virginians are a special set of Democrats, white, low income and undereducated. Some, like Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo and Jonathan Tilove of the Newhouse papers, have linked the lackluster performance of Barack Obama in West Virginia to a larger Appalachian problem. These writers connect the presumptive nominee's defeat in West Virginia, his previous losses in Ohio and Pennsylvania, and an anticipated poor outing in Tuesday's Kentucky primary, to the historical, geographic and cultural imperatives shared by Appalachian mountain people.
The legions of pseudonym-laden online posters who follow in political punditry's wake are less restrained in describing the shortcomings of Sen. Clinton's Appalachian supporters. They suggest it has to do with her voters being racist, toothless, shoeless, and prone to marrying their cousins. In short, they characterize these "special" Democrats in much the same terms they used in quieter times to describe Republicans.
Ouch.
Read on.
The crux of Ms. (presumably) Davis's argument is that there seems to be a growing shift away from rural voters and towards urban ones. She goes less into the reasons for this, but you get the definite impression that in her (and for that matter, my) mind one critical factor is that the Democrats are increasingly being run by people who don't like rural areas very much. Or (to be nicer, although I can't imagine why I'm bothering) at least being run by people who don't really understand rural voters. It's most obvious in the Appalachian area, but it's no secret that Obama's support is based on urban/suburban, affluent white people and African Americans; he does badly with rural and working class white people, and he's not getting particularly better at it as the race goes on and on and on and on and on.
Which is a real problem for the Democrats, because they can't win elections without the rural vote. From the article:
In 2004, Kerry lost the rural battleground by about 20 percent and with it a close election. The rural vote was particularly telling in the pivotal state of Ohio, where a massive Democratic get-out-the-vote effort in cities and suburbs was more than offset by increased Republican success with rural voters. Many of those rural voters were Appalachian and blue collar, people who back before the name-calling were reliable Democrats. They gave Bush a second term.
Ms. Davis is hopeful that Senator Obama can reverse this: while I am of course biased, I still think that she's ignoring the peculiar emotional appeal that rural-baiting has for the urban population - particularly that of the younger urban/suburban vote that is disproportionately for the junior Senator from Illinois. They aren't particularly interested in playing nice with others, thank God, and while they mostly don't vote they do give money (just as good, right?), so the Democrats as a whole have to treat them carefully. So you get situations like this:
How Obama fares in rural America may, in the end, have to do with whether he shows up. In politics not showing up and losing are kissing cousins. Obama made three visits to West Virginia. In Kentucky, he limited himself to appearances in the state's two biggest cities, Louisville and Lexington. He didn't come to my part of the state, or try to make any friends in rural areas.
...and before you object, note that Harold Ford Jr. had the exact same complaint (Via Instapundit). What Davis and Ford either don't recognize, or just won't say is that this isn't the strategy of a man who's clinched the nomination: this is the strategy of a man who's maintaining a primary election strategy and worrying about the general election one later. He would have been - and would be - better off thinking in terms of November, as well as August.
But never mind me. No, really. Much obliged.
Moe Lane
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than the faculty of Harvard, or anything that slithers in or out of DNC headquarters.
Let them vote for the Democrat candidate in November and they will have acquired teeth, were imported Italian shoes, divorced their cousins, and speak with the wisdom of Solomon.
When you're a Democrat it's easy changing your mind, just follow the vapors of your emotions. You're never wrong and you're always indignant.
"a man's admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him". Tocqueville
I am trying to think of the last time my party's leaders or strategists, etc., referred to me (since I live in Arkansas) as an undereducated, white chick, or as a problem for my party.
Democrats, the party of tolerance!
MelZ
Could it be that the democratic party just does not represent the values of the majority of Americans?
MelZ
Please tell me you are not just now discovering that.
How Obama fares in rural America may, in the end, have to do with whether he shows up. In politics not showing up and losing are kissing cousins.
Seriously -- if there's something that should get the attention of those (like Sullivan) who are attuned to "dog-whistle" baiting, it's that sentence. A piece about Appalachia, and the people there being "racist, toothless, shoeless, and prone to marrying their cousins," uses "kissing cousins as an analogy?
Is that meant, I wonder, as an extra "dig" at those racist b*****ds in Appalachia who won't get their acts together and vote for their Messiah -- or is it an attempt to frame this political discussion, which would otherwise go right over their "racist, toothless, uneducated" heads, in terms that even they can understand and relate to, like "kissing cousins" (a.k.a. inbreeding)?
Wow.
The piece semed to me to be about Dems losing the rural voters because the younger, urban and suburban "voters"/activists are hostile towards the rural voters.
It makes me wonder, is the author a younger, urban or suburban "voter"/activist?
Or is this just a prime example of how the hostility toward the rural areas is endemic to the Dem party as a whole?
"Always be honest with yourself. Even if you are honest with no one else."
--me
When these elitist snobs try to reach out to rural voters they end up so obviously patronizing them that they end up alienating them.
Remember, "Can I get me a hunting license here?" My personal funniest moment from the last campaign.
The good news is us average Americans have been outsmarting the city slickers for, oh, about the last 200 years.
Of course this won't be the reasoning in November. When they lose it won't be because of their far left agenda, their lack of substance, or the fact they've yet to make a real political point.
It will just be the fault of those evil eeeevil Republicans who turned voters away, blew up voting booths and ate peoples babies to make sure they didn't vote.
The Dems are going to have to pull up alot of names of those who died to have chance at this election.
It seems to me he has Cambridge and South Side of Chicago. He uses the former in San Francisco, Oregon and other locales featuring pointy headed white liberals and the other he uses when he's trying to build up his bona fides street cred.
Not sure either works in Appalachia, which must drive him nuts.
by the selection of Zell Miller and Barack Obama as keynote speakers at the party conventions.
Also found this amusing tidbit which I did not know before:
Obama is a racist, but not in the way you might think...and the stuff about the missile strikes is funny, too. Please forgive me if I'm linking old news.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/oct2004/obam-o01.shtml
"ma deuce says no truce"
having spent some time in West Va. I can tell you that Obama can go on TV and call every West Va. voter a toothless, slack jawed, jug blowing retard and he will still get their vote in the fall.
They are more addicted to the democratic party and the big handout than almost any other group in the nation. Which makes me wonder if the Dems are right to treat them like idiots.
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
Don't forget: WV went for Bush in 2004.
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
...they'll be going for McCain in 2008. Hillary makes WV competitive. Obama doesn't.
The Fuzzy Puppy of the VRWC. I've been usurped!
Bush had a strange nack for sometimes pulling votes from strong democrat constituencies like latinos. I still say that the overwhelming democratness of West Va. will come out in the end.
"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle
During the news coverage in W. Virginia, they did an interview with a woman who had just voted for Clinton. When asked "why?" she answered that it was because Obama "is a Muslim."
I think his image, on many different levels, is hard for a lot of America to swallow and is just outside of their experience.
The unknowledgeable can always point to his name, after all how many Christians are named Barack Hussein Obama.
Not that it matters this cycle because how many voters as a percentage will not vote for BO or HC simply because of color or gender? If we are to assume 5-10% of the total votes cast for or against; that is a huge number of "lost" votes unrecoverable with any campaigning.
In 2004 there were 121,480,019 votes cast (From CNN) and the win margin was 3%. Those color/gender votes will make a difference this year and I believe it will go against HRC and BO. This is not to say America is not ready for a woman or black man as president, there's just too many of other "not them" factors.
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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
--Aristotle

Rural has become anywhere 100 miles inland to these folks. What I fail to understand is how democrat strongholds like MN and WI continue to be so because of the strong conservative values held there.
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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
--Aristotle